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We would like to invite all our users to watch and participate in yet another AskThePRO episode on TiltBook.com that will take place on Wednesday, 11.12.2013 at 16:00 CET!

Starting a bit earlier this week, you can begin posting your questions right now and when the session begins, our hero will choose and answer your best and most interesting ones in a course of exactly one hour (during which you can still post more questions)!

This week's special guest: kazor

While many can’t their heads around working with four cards at any given time, others are making more than a decent living out of it! Our this week’s guest known only as kazor is exactly one of those people who have managed to master the game, playing up to $5/$10 blinds and occasionally even higher. Kazor is also a very popular coach for YourDoomPoker.com having two in-depth PLO courses avalible – How To Crush PLO Cash Games and Expert Play For Small, Medium and High Stakes.

kazor will be live on TiltBook to answer all your cool questions on Wednesday, 11.12.2013 at 16:00 CET at www.tiltbook.com/AskThePRO. And as always, remember the best question posted will win $20!

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Scarmaker: Hey kazor thanks a lot for doing this! My first question is quite simple while the answer may be not - why PLO? :)
December 9, 2013 19:07
PLO is an emerging game and many players are trying it now with limited experience. It is a game with tons of action and many swings. It attracts gamblers and in my opinion is more enjoyable to play.
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Scarmaker: And apart from NLHE and PLO, what other game do you think has the biggest potential to make it big in the future and which one would you personally prefer?
December 9, 2013 19:08
I think PLO and NLHE will be the biggest games for a very long time. Perhaps a variation or hybrid of the two might become popular but I see these two being the biggest for a long time. PLO8 is likely to become more popular during this time as well.
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andrepardalf: You coach PLO right? Why this choice? what we can surprisely find in PLO?
December 9, 2013 20:32
I do coach PLO and also have 2 video series available on yourdoompoker.com . I am involved in PLO because it is more of an action game and most people do not have a good idea of hand values both pre and post flop.
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ProBlackbird: Hello! I would like to improve my PLO games, any suggestion for become a better PLO player? :D
December 10, 2013 22:18
I would suggest watching some videos, talking over hands with players better then you, and posting some hands and reading some strategy online. I would also go over your hands and review them after sessions.
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Trippinn: Hello Kazor, I guess you was a NLH player before you moved to PLO? How was the transition? Did it take awhile to get used to and get comfortable? Did you see any big changes in the way you played your sessions? What did you have to change about your self to make this move to a more high variance form of poker & what spurred you on to go to PLO in the first place?
December 10, 2013 22:29
It does take some time to transition over successfully. You are also moving from a no-limit game to a pot-limit game which changes the way you should be playing quite a bit. Added to that is the fact you are playing a different game and it can take some time. I enjoy the action of PLO.
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atunazzz: Why is it that the highest cash games are PLO? Also, do you think that the record of biggest online poker pot (antonius vs isildur) will be beaten? If yes, when?
December 10, 2013 22:31
In terms of record pots, this will surely be beaten. I would guess sometime within the next 18 months but that is just a guess. If the US every regulates online poker nationally this pot will be beaten as more people with more money move online.
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PokerFacts: I understand that variance is much bigger in PLO than NLHE as almost everyone playing PLO says. However, vast majority of players do tend to complain about luck more than they should and so I would like to get a pro's view on whether or not is the difference in variance really THAT extremely bigger. Thanks a lot kazor! :)
December 11, 2013 00:09
The pre-flop edges are much smaller and multi-way with low SPR people are getting their stacks in more frequently where in NLHE the vast majority of all-in's are heads-up so if your a favorite you will win over 50% of the time and frequently be 70%+. In PLO you might be a favorite multiway and be 40% or less as well as if you do get it in HU you are frequently in 60/40 situations.
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VeraPohlova: Hello kazor! I know that PokerStars and FullTilt launched a few new "omaha based" games, how do you feel about those?
December 11, 2013 00:53
I feel the way most other players due evidenced by the low frequency of those tables being played upon.
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gardjone: Hello “kazor ”am play alot /MTT and SITNGO/turneys ,I am interested in how I can improve my game before and after balloon,go to many tournaments in the money,but it is very difficult to get to the finish line in big turneys,blinds upload and cards do not enter and do not enter,course become aggressive and start to bluff to steal the blinds,but always found someone to snap me,not always ofcourse i have good times,and win it smal many turneys..I just want to hear yours thinking about bubble play and after balloon,I would be grateful if you share something from you,I'll be glad to hear something from a good player...just ask to know what you thinked for this,I know your PLO player and coach..evry ask answer to plo kesh tbles,i just ask small for ,,mtt,, to hear you what u think..
December 11, 2013 01:18
You have to embrace the bubble. Most people are scared of going out on the bubble so you need to use that to your advantage. If you are a mid-stack do not be afraid of playing back at the big-stack who is likely just raising a bunch because everyone is folding too much.
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Ciulan: Helo Kazor, I just started with PLO, but how long it takes to you, to play nl1000, and what bankroll do You need for this, I mean how many buyins, how many tables you playing, and are you using HUD? (HM2 or PT4?) and, You started with nl2 PLO, and improving your game to higher level with building a bankroll from "zero to hero" or You already had a bankroll that you made on NLH, good to have you there, i hope i will recive answers! :D
December 11, 2013 02:38
I would recommend HM2 and I had a bankroll when I moved over to PLO as I was playing NLHE and SNG's before the transition. I seldom play more then 3 tables.
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MillerSTGT: Hi! Do you use a HUD? If yes, what are your key stats in PLO? I play a lot 5Card Omaha and Courchevel, where Trackers don´t work yet. But in my opinion a HUD would be pointless anyway. For me, notes are much more important, since the boardtexture tells you much more than in nlh and I feel like the hud-numbers would judge confuse me in my decision taking. Do you know good mid-high stakes players that only depent on notes about the players tendencies and the situation itself?
December 11, 2013 08:46
There are many good players who do not use a HUD. It can be helpful in many spots but can also be a crutch for some people. I think it has its uses and if you can find some things that it helps with than I would use it.
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Andre: Hi there Kazor, nice to finally have an Omaha expert here. I am relatively new to Omaha, only a 15k sample size and a small profit. I have a couple of questions for you. 1. I often find it frustrating when I flop the nut straight, with no redraw, and against certain opponents they always have a set/flush draw. Any advice on how I can approach these spots and win the maximum/lose the minimum? 2. Any general advice on how to play AAxx hands, I don't always 3bet it and play these very nitty and just get out of the way when there is too much action. 3. Is Phil Galfond the best PLO player ever? And what makes him so good. Thanks for the answers in advance :)
December 11, 2013 09:41
AAxx is always a tricky spot in PLO. I would pay careful attention to effective stack sizes and SPR. You do not want to advertise you have AAxx or you will allow your opponents to play perfectly versus you. You need to have a more balanced range and understand good flops vs bad flops as well. I do not know if Galfond is the best PLO player ever. I only played with him once and that was live at a charity event. Sauce (Ben) was there also and at the after-party I got a lot of insight from speaking with him. Both very nice guys and Sauce should also be considered one of the best. I do not think there is "one" best since styles could be more optimal versus certain opponent types. If player A>B and player B>C that does not mean that player A>C in poker.
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TiltBook: Hey kazor! Can you name one or two biggest "aha moments" you have had in your PLO career? Specifically the ones that are key for PLO but not so imporant for NLHE.
December 11, 2013 18:52
That's a good question although I cant really remember anything specific. I would guess when I finally understood hand values pre and post flop, heads-up and multi-way. One of the biggest mistake transitioning players make is associating hand strength of NLHE to PLO, for example overplaying high pairs post-flop especially when SPR (stack to pot ratio) is still high. Once I realized how different PLO was, I started seeing how flawed so many people were playing.
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Scarmaker: I ask this almost every NLHE cash game player, so I am interested in this regarding the PLO too - what is the biggest leak regs have that you think you have earned the most money off?
December 11, 2013 18:53
Well, I do not want to get too specific here but in a general sense it is people not understanding hand ranges and specific lines of more advanced opponents. Most regs make their money off people playing poorly not necessarily by them playing good.
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Trippinn: Is there more skill in PLO or NLH? Is more study needed in PLO compared to NLH? Have you found your NLH game changed after playing PLO?
December 11, 2013 19:22
I am not sure how to interpret the more skill part so I will comment on my game changing. PLO has helped my NLHE game to expand and I have gotten much better at NLHE and still play it very often since that is still the main game being played live.
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kramirez05: hello Kazor, i don't know how to play PLO. lol but i heard to some people that when playing PLO, just make sure that you don't lose to the second nuts. Is this a true saying :) thank you for your time. good luck.
December 11, 2013 19:28
Its pretty opponent specific but if you are multiway with a high SPR you do not want to get into a big pot with a draw that is non-nuts.
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VeraPohlova: As a man playing quite high stakes, what do you see promising... lets say PLO200/400 regs struggling with the most? What do you yourself are struggling with the most?
December 11, 2013 19:28
Its hard to say but many of the PLO200/400 regs are very good with opening ranges and deriving value from people playing poorly but do not fair as well when the players become better and they need better lines and wider more balanced ranges and every mistake is magnified because the easy money isn't there as much.
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Scarmaker: Hey again :) Can you name any specific thing that you saw any of your students doing and thought "Hey, this is absolutely brilliant, I must look into this myself and most likley start doing it too!"
December 11, 2013 19:29
Well nothing very specific but things always come up that I think could be good and could implement into my game. I had coached one player in HU PLO who is now currently playing 50/100 and to get there you have to be doing just about everything very good and then have that little extra which can make you great. I recall all of our sessions were theory based and all he ever wanted to discuss was theory. He had/has a brilliant poker mind and was really able to develop his own unique style.
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PokerFacts: if you could make hold'em disappear altogether now, would you?
December 11, 2013 19:34
No
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Andre: Few more questions for you :) Why do most nosebleed players choose PLO over NLH? Is it fair to say that edges are very thin in NLH nowadays for them? A few years ago Blom lost something like $4.5 million to Brain Hastings in one session of PLO. Whats the biggest losing day you've ever had? And also the biggest winning day?
December 11, 2013 21:48
It would be speculation but in order to really move up in any game you need a big degree of gamble and a certain shield from the real value of the chips. PLO is a game which brings a lot more gamble then NLHE. I honestly am not totally sure of the answer to the last two questions and do not want to get too specific. I do try to set certain stop-losses as that is what works best for me.
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Trippinn: Somethign everyone gets asked but I have not seen it, If you woke up tomorrow, lost all interest in poker, and never wanted to play again, what would you want to pursue?
December 12, 2013 00:03
I would try to find an occupation where I could help people or animals.
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kazor: I want to thank tiltbook for having me for a second time now and everyone who participated.
December 12, 2013 00:07
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Scarmaker: Thanks kazor for pulling this off one more time :) The winner for the best question is MillerSTGT which means he is getting 20 bucks - woohoo! :)
December 12, 2013 08:45

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